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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

wow, hadnt seen that first kesey quote before that tiger posted.

yeah BD - kinda says a whole lot dont it?? tough to argue that one.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

"It was the false notes you didn't play that kept that lead line so golden pure."

Garcia obviously has admirable qualities, even enough to reach the gold ring.

But really it's easy to recognize there were false notes that were played -- if you ever listened to the 80s and 90s! I don't have the cure for him or me, but being self-centered lead to self-medication that only covered up problems. Hopefully Garcia beat his demons there at the end (and if he didn't I'm not sure I could).

Who knows, maybe Jerry would have looked at the $9 trillion debt of a country run by oil and military and the rapidly melting ice caps with a refreshed outlook and decided that it was time for the ass to set the mind free.

Even if it's only blocking evil (or the nothing if you will) for a time. No one really expects Obama to change much; it's a group decision after all.



This post was modified by spacedface on 2008-09-03 22:25:16

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Herman Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

are you shitting me???? never read that from Goring before.

nice post BD - very informative - historically, ideologically, and psychologically

cant say i disagree with him - he is spot on.

got to think about his words some, and digest them.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

speaking of melting ice shelfs, did you see the news. fucking piece the size of manhattan let loose - a piece that they didnt think was going to break.

spaced, i am with you on this - i am afraid of the arctic melt - cant be sure what is causing it, but we can do our part to slow it.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Don't tread on me.